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Natasha Kermani on ‘The Dreadful’ and Reimagining ‘Onibaba’ for the Dark Ages

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Marcia Gay Harden as Morwen in the horror film, THE DREADFUL, a Lionsgate release. Photo courtesy of Lionsgate.

One of the most unsettling stories to emerge from the Japanese NOH theater tradition is that of Onibaba, or the “demon hag.” Famously adapted in Kaneto Shindô’s 1964 film, the story follows a young wife and her mother-in-law who try to make sense of their fractured lives when the man they’re waiting for dies in battle. Destabilized by the presence of her son’s best friend, the older woman uses a hellish mask to pose as a demon and scare her daughter-in-law away from his bed.

Though frequently set in feudal Japan, this folkloric morality play feels surprisingly relevant on the modern screen. Writer/director Natasha Kermani (V/H/S/85, Immitation Girl) reframes this troubled triangle in The Dreadful, an adaptation of the Onibaba legend set in England’s tumultuous Dark Ages.

Anne (Sophie Turner) and her mother-in-law, Morwen (Marcia Gay Harden), have built a simple life together while waiting for Seamus (Laurence O’Fuarain) to return from war. When his friend Jago (Kit Harington) returns instead, heartbreaking news throws their easy alliance into chaos. No longer bound by the man they both loved, Anne and Morwen must scramble to find their own stability in an aggressively patriarchal world. As Anne begins sneaking away to visit Jago, a sinister figure lurks in the shadows. An imposing knight on mounted horseback blocks her path, seeming to warn the young widow away from sinful temptation. Allegiances and empathy shift as these three lonely souls grow more desperate for companionship.

Ahead of the film’s February 20th release, Bloody Disgusting sat down with Kermani to chat about ethereal horror and masculine symbols of power and greed.


Sophie Turner as Anne in the horror film, THE DREADFUL, a Lionsgate release. Photo courtesy of Lionsgate.

You’ve called The Dreadful a passion project. What draws you to this Japanese legend, and why retell the story through a gothic lens?

I’m drawn to the image of these two women in this desolate landscape and a relationship you really don’t see that often, especially in a horror space, of two women who are not biologically related. We have quite a few mother-daughter relationships, but this one is unique. Even in the original Buddhist folktale, it’s a mother-in-law and a daughter-in-law struggling over their relationship. It’s really intriguing to see women living on their own at this time. We’ve of course seen plenty of movies about lords and kings going to war, but this felt like a rich story and relationship to mine.

I also liked the setting in particular. I knew I wanted it to be set in the Dark Ages, but the mid to end of the 15th century is interesting. It’s the end of the Dark Ages, so it’s the last gasp, if you will, of this era of darkness, of magic and demons. We’re moving into the time of Shakespeare, Queen Elizabeth, Martin Luther, and we’re almost to the modern world and our modern relationship to stories and religion. There’s a lot of change coming. So I was intrigued to explore that as the setting.

The original Onibaba mask resembles an older woman, and the name Onibaba translates to “demon hag.” Your version of the story reimagines this figure as a knight in full armor, which is a much more masculine symbol. How did you approach designing your demon knight, and was that injection of masculinity intentional?

Definitely. This is a big departure from the Onibaba myth. Onibaba is the demon hag, so it’s definitely very female-coded, very witchy. And that’s really not what our entity is. He is very masculine. He’s almost more like a God of War. I grew up loving Arthurian legend and the myths of Avalon. So you might even see a little bit of the Green Knight in him. The details on his armor are all green. There’s a lot of influence from the Arthurian legend there. And in fact, we filmed in Tintagel, Cornwall, which is where King Arthur was allegedly born. So there was a kind of magic in the air.

During the time of the War of the Roses, battle had become almost commonplace for these folks. It was the men in the labor class going to war, very different from a king who was fighting for glory or a crown. For these guys, it was like, “Okay, well, here’s an opportunity for me to make a ton of money all at once.” In my research, I discovered that commoners would often kidnap and ransom a local lord to get a bunch of money and then be able to raise their social status from that point.

So it’s this interesting relationship to war as an industry and this pre-capitalist attitude of, “I can make a bunch of money and change my social standing.” So when this male character, Seamus, Morwen’s son and Anne’s husband, goes to war, he wants to make money. The idea is that he will come back, and they’re going to be able to build another house and have more food and more abundance throughout. So when he does not come back, that’s when the plan starts to go off the rails. Our mask, if you want to think of it that way, is an embodiment of all that energy that Seamus took with him when he went to war.

There are a couple of other differences in your version of the story, particularly when it comes to Jago’s return. How did you approach adapting this legend, and how do these alterations affect your understanding of the folklore?

Yeah, I’ve always loved this. I call it the “Monkey’s Paw” attitude of horror, which I think is also a little bit folkloric, because a lot of it comes out of these morality plays. Folklore exists to teach children how to act, what to do, and what not to do. A lot of times, the horror of folklore comes as a consequence of the character’s own actions. And this is in keeping with that. I’ll just say it’s all connected to this ancient attitude of a horror story and a warning to watch out with what you’re doing.

A large part of the myth revolves around using religion as a tool of fear. Anne is very religious, and we first meet her during a church service with Morwen. How does religion factor into the story?

Well, this is sort of the last age where the Catholic Church has total control over the Christian faith in Europe. Which, of course, is not completely true, because there’s always been these little sects. That’s part of the genius of the Catholic Church is that they were able to sort of embrace all of these different attitudes. However, to me, the church represents another institution in the film, alongside the mother-in-law. Morwen leans on this idea of the institution of familial responsibility. “You are the daughter-in-law, I’m the mother-in-law. You are responsible for doing what I say and taking care of me.” So the church as an institution is one of the elements being put upon Anne.

However, she is a deeply spiritual person. And that comes back to this folkloric attitude of a woman trying to find the right path, a good path, or a good life. I think Sophie did a really beautiful job of bringing the spirituality Anne embodies to the role. That sort of goodness is also her connection to the church. It’s her refuge, it’s a place of safety for her. There’s a difference between the institution and how Morwen views responsibility and the church; laws versus Anne’s own relationship to good and bad. We see that those things do not always line up.

(L-R) Marcia Gay Harden as Morwen and Sophie Turner as Anne in the horrorm film, THE DREADFUL, a Lionsgate release. Photo courtesy of Lionsgate

What has always fascinated me about the story of Onibaba is the connection Morwen and Anne share. They’ve built a sort of female utopia, and then a man intrudes …

And ruins it all [Laughs]

He ruins it all. [Laughs] He corrupts the female space they’ve built. With that in mind, who do you see as the protagonist of the story, and who do you see as the villain? Or is it more complicated than simple good and bad?

It’s certainly not that simple. The genre elements all spin out of what the main character, Anne,  is experiencing. But Morwen sees herself as the main character of the film. She’s doing what she thinks she needs to do, and she’s afraid of being alone. She doesn’t want to be left behind. She doesn’t have her son anymore. She doesn’t have anything in this world, so she’s holding on as hard as she can to her daughter-in-law. I think that’s part of why Morwen is such a fun character. I know myself and my team, we love her. She’s our favorite because she’s not doing evil things for evil reasons. She’s doing them because she doesn’t want to be alone, and what’s more relatable than that?

Would you consider The Dreadful a feminist story?

I would say so because I think it shows the limitations the patriarchy puts on a character like Morwen, who has suffered under this system and was never able to be free of it. She has been put in this situation where she has brought her son up to be this ambitious, cruel guy because he is her tool. He is her method in the patriarchy to survive, to thrive, to have abundance. And so when she resorts to doing nasty things, I think she’s working within a system that isn’t really built for her to thrive. Anne, in a lot of ways, to me, exists outside of that system and becomes a little more saintly in her own way. She rejects the system and finds her own path.

You also directed the 2020 film Lucky, and more recently, you adapted the Joe Hill story Abraham’s Boys. Both of these films involve taking stories we’re familiar with and presenting them in a new, often horrific, light. What can we learn from reexamining this 14th-century Japanese folk legend through the lens of a modern filmmaker?

I think, unfortunately, it’s still that question of “do we really know the people around us?” Everyone’s telling their own story about themselves and their relationships to God, their relationships to war and to each other, the relationship of husband to wife. All of those are defined by the narratives we tell ourselves and each other. I think Anne feels a little bit betrayed. The people she thought were on her side or had her best interests at heart, in fact, did not. I think that’s something we’re all really struggling with right now. How to better understand each other, as humans and not necessarily just through the lens of social media. Can we truly understand each other’s needs and desires? Can we help each other and be in healthy, not toxic, relationships?


The Dreadful releases in select theaters and on Digital on February 20, 2026.

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George A. Romero’s ‘Day of the Dead’ Gets New Life After Search for Long-Lost Film Elements

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“I was told that this couldn’t be found by some people that I worked with, and that just set a fire in me,” Scream Factory producer Jeff Roland says of the newly restored Day of the Dead in 4K from the seemingly long-lost original interpositive.

The four-disc release, loaded with special features and new interviews in addition to the restoration, arrives almost exactly three years after Roland began his long pursuit of the missing elements that he was warned were lost to time.

It’s a fitting journey for Day of the Dead, the third film in horror master George A. Romero‘s zombie series, considering the film’s long road to reappraisal after its initial failure at the box office in 1985. A huge departure from the popular Dawn of the Dead, the third film set its battle for humanity’s survival in an underground bunker, waged between a small group of scientists and ruthless soldiers.

It was underground where Roland began his pursuit of the missing interpositive elements, starting with the old-fashioned paper trail in Scream Factory’s basement, sorting through records from their 2013 Blu-ray release.

Scream Factory’s Years-Long Quest to Restore a Horror Classic

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“So, there I was, going through boxes and boxes and boxes, trying to find this one specific invoice for a delivery company amongst thousands of pieces of paper,” Roland tells Bloody Disgusting. “That was the start. I was able to figure out the delivery service, and from there, it just went into a whirlwind of… drama? Yeah, there was some drama in there at one point; I thought it had been stolen by someone.”

The lengthy restoration process that also details Roland’s Indiana Jones-like journey, but he notes that “the short and sweet of it is, it took forever, I was trying to find leads. anything. I was seeing ridiculous things online, you know, like it was in a diamond mine in South Africa. I even followed up on that. I thought it would be hilarious if it were actually being kept in the Wampum mine. So I called them, and this poor woman who answered the phone sounded like she got this call every other day.”

Roland notes, “The records, for film vaults and such, aren’t the greatest. I’ll just say that. So, I think that’s, over time, that’s something that we definitely need to improve upon in this business.”

John Harrison Reflects on Day of the Dead‘s Surprising Legacy and Original Vision

While now considered another Romero zombie classic, critics and audiences rejected Day of the Dead at first, especially the Caribbean-style theme music from composer and first assistant director John Harrison.

Few are as surprised by the massive shift in the film’s reception as Harrison. The filmmaker and longtime Romero collaborator reflects, “Now, if you had asked any of us, and George included, that, ‘hey man, you know, in 45 years, this movie’s gonna be considered like a cinema classic.’ We all probably would have said, ‘Oh, we’re making a movie, man. We’re just having fun making a movie, and God, can you believe it, that people are paying us to do this?’ I don’t want to minimize it. I don’t want to say that we were just goofing around.”

Harrison continues, “All of us were really serious about our craft and about what we were trying to do. But I don’t think that any of us, maybe George, hopefully, had some feeling that his films would last for a while. I was a kid, you know? I just wanted to have fun, make movies, and be part of that whole scene. So, it was really disappointing when Day came out, because it was a bomb. I mean, let’s be truthful about it. It was a bomb. And people hated the score. So, 40-some years later, it’s become, for some people, the apogee of that first dead trilogy. The best of the three in its own way.”

Harrison also points out that Romero’s Land of the Dead would later face a similar reception and reappraisal, which was all the more fascinating considering early budget cuts caused Romero to drastically scale back Day of the Dead‘s story. A lot of what was excised was later revisited in Land of the Dead. “That was actually part of the original Day of the Dead concept,” Harrison explains of the 2005 film.

“Because of budget and schedule and so forth and so on, and ratings,” he tells BD. “George couldn’t do it, and that’s why we ended up with the more condensed version of Day of the Dead, which everybody now knows and loves. In a way, I’m kind of glad, because it has a real identity being trapped in those caves, and the end of the world, the two sides of society. Going at it, headbutting, to try and survive. But the whole Fiddler’s Green idea and all of that stuff that ended up in Land of the Dead was part of the original Day.”

George Romero Predicted Social Media and Modern Culture

Suzanne Romero, founder & president of the George A. Romero Foundation and the late filmmaker’s wife, breaks down the film’s trajectory even further. “The original Day of the Dead script, I think, at one point, it was written for a $12 million budget, and it was basically cut in half. And it’s a great script. But that’s what happens with filmmakers, and you gotta make do.

She continues, “But I really think that this film is really for the fans and people who love physical media. And in terms of the foundation, well, anytime George Romero is mentioned is good, because what we are doing is to provide a healthy legacy. We’re uplifting his legacy, we’re supporting the archive, and we’re also supporting the Horror Study Center. So, all of these three things are what the Foundation is striving to do. As far as I’m concerned, the more we say George Romero’s name, the better it is.”

The mention of Land of the Dead brings up one recurring theme of Romero’s work: the filmmaker’s ability to keep his pulse so thoroughly on the current social climate in a way that feels prescient. 

Roland agrees, “I think one of the most amazing things that doesn’t get talked about enough is in 2007, he came out with Diary of the Dead. That pretty much predicted YouTube culture. I mean, we’re going through it right now, the exact things that were happening in Diary of the Dead. It’s incredible.”

“Well, that was intentional,” Harrison says, “because I was part of that and worked with Peter [Grunwald] and George on developing that whole script and production. And that was definitely intentional. There was nothing accidental or, ‘Great timing, guys!’ It was not like that at all. It was intentional.”

Romero agrees, “[George] was very wary of social media, but very wary of the internet. He was always very suspicious and thought that we ought to beware; we ought to be walking very carefully into this space.

“Which we haven’t done, of course,” Harrison adds.

No, of course not,” Romero responds. “And AI. I mean, he would be writing about AI right now and thinking, danger! What the fuck are you doing, people? But not only that, but he also did it in a layman’s way. You know, he really brought it to very familiar language, and people that spoke to each other, it was in a very natural way, and it was the way he developed characters. The way he evolved with how his women were more powerful, because he kind of regretted that in Night of the Living Dead, [Barbra] was weak. He always thought the women ought to be much stronger, and I think it started with Season of the Witch.”

Everyone Wanted to Be a Zombie in a Romero Movie

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George A. Romero’s legacy certainly looms large over Scream Factory’s impressive new release, offering a comprehensive look at Day of the Dead through a dizzying number of new audio commentaries, featurettes, and interviews detailing everything from the “mine fever” that spread among the cast and crew to Ernest Dickerson‘s high-pressure day on set running the second unit camera.

That’s also reflected in Romero’s zombies themselves, dating back to 1968’s Night of the Living Dead.

In Pittsburgh, it was a badge of honor to be a zombie in a George Romero movie,” Harrison recounts. “Everybody from the Dean of Students at Carnegie Mellon to the presidents of corporations. I had a story that came out of Dawn. I was pitching a commercial for my own little company, and I’d done a bit for George as ‘Screwdriver Zombie’ on Dawn. I didn’t get cleaned up enough, and I went to this meeting at the first thing in the morning. The vice president of this bank is looking at me, going, ‘Is there something wrong with you?’ I said, ‘No, no, that’s what I know? I’m fine.’ He said, ‘Well, you’re bleeding out of your ear.’ Okay, so then I had to tell them the whole story. And he listened to it, and I thought, well, this is gonna be ridiculous. I’m coming in talking about being a zombie in a movie, and I want to sell him this, like, multi-thousand-dollar commercial that the bank is gonna pay for. He listened very carefully to me, and he said, ‘Well, listen, we’ll talk about the commercial, but do you think I could be a zombie in one?”

That hasn’t changed in the present, either.

Romero confirms, “We’re producing George’s film, Twilight of the Dead, and we get requests, ‘Can I be a zombie in this film?’ So, even today, people are very interested, and yet it’s terrible. I mean, it’s hours and hours of makeup.”

Scream Factory’s Day of the Dead four-disc 4K UHD + Blu-ray Collector’s Edition releases on June 16.

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