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[Interview] Getting Personal With A Pale Horse Named Death’s Sal Abruscato

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Last week, gothic grunge/metal band A Pale Horse Named Death released their sophomore album Lay My Soul To Waste, the follow up to 2011’s And Hell Will Follow Me (review). Dark, melodic, haunting, and unafraid to expose fears, tragedies, and pains, it is a fantastic album that is well worth your time and attention.

And today we bring you an exclusive interview with guitarist/singer/mastermind Sal Abruscato (Type O Negative) that delves into his mind and finds out what it takes to bring you this music. Head on below to check it out and make sure to pick up Lay My Soul To Waste on iTunes!

Bloody-Disgusting: Aside from the want of any band to continue releasing albums and connecting with their fans, was there some other reason, some personal drive, that made you want to record and release ‘Lay My Soul To Waste’?
Sal Abruscato: Yes, I did not want to be a typical one album project and show that this is a real band. I also had created this band during a grueling divorce proceeding so it was important to me to create and succeed with new music. To prove to my self-worth to myself.

BD: The subject matter of these songs is very heavy and intense. Do you find it dangerous at all to put yourself in the mindset to write these lyrics?
SA: Absolutely. I battle suicidal thoughts at any time and what keeps me grounded is releasing the music I hear in my head. Darkness can take over and it’s hard to climb out of it, so it is a form of therapy. A man alone with his thoughts is a dangerous man.

BD: Does this music and these lyrics offer you any form of catharsis or relief?
SA: Yes, it’s my therapy and if I don’t write music once in a while these ideas and thoughts stay bottled up. It can get self destructive for me. Bottling up my emotions forever is a bad thing and the only way I know how to release it is through my music.

BD: The sounds and tones are almost unpolished and raw, which, in my opinion, is a great extension of the atmosphere of the album. What did it take to find the right “tone” for the album?
SA: A lot of hard work on Matt & my part. But if I tell you how we do it I’d have to kill you. We would spend days discussing and tweaking, trying out different mic positions, messing with the phasing of mics and utilizing tube amps at their optimum performance. The last thing I wanted was a slick, polished sound that would seem not organic to the listener.

BD: For as dark, heavy, and melancholic as the album can be, there are also moments of beauty. What do you think it is about A Pale Horse Named Death that allows for this melding of emotions?
SA: I enjoy combining dark eerie music with beautiful melodies. It’s very natural to me and I love it. It’s a yin and yang balance: As we present a very dark somber sound we add sweet melodies that just pull the listener’s ear in.

BD: It seems like hard rock and metal is going on two very different paths: One is utilizing technologically sophisticated devices such as the AXE-FX to create futuristic, otherworldly tones, such as Periphery and TesseracT. The other, it feels, is moving back to more vintage and raw sounds, embracing the original feel of “heavy metal” and “hard rock”, such as Heaven’s Basement or Airbourne. If you see A Pale Horse Named Death on one of those paths, which would it be and why?
SA: I see us as an old tone that is vintage at times and very analog. I am stuck in my roots and enjoy utilizing retro moments very much. I was born in ’70 so I grew up hearing all the hits of the seventies and, even though stylistically we are different, I tend to pull a little influence from all those melodies and tones I would hear as a kid.

BD: What do you hope people take from Lay My Soul To Waste?
SA: That they take us seriously and enjoy the music for what it is. This is what I have to offer these days and it’s where my head is at. This is it for me APHND will be my last musical effort so it means a lot to give it my best and leave behind good music. Just crank it and enjoy.

BD: What does the future hold in store for A Pale Horse Named Death?
SA: Who knows? Hopefully a good progression of growth. We certainly will always do our best to make this crazy machine happen. Hopefully “Lay My Soul To Waste” will succeed and we continue to tour and make records.
Thank you so much for all the support and love you have given us.

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‘Tarot’ Filmmakers Spenser Cohen & Anna Halberg on Practical Creature Effects and ‘Insidious’ Inspirations

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An evil curse gets awakened in Screen Gems horror movie Tarot when a group of friends recklessly ignore a sacred rule: never use someone else’s deck. Writers/Directors Spenser Cohen & Anna Halberg unleash a variety of Tarot card-inspired entities on the group through practical effects, and create an unexpected connection to Insidious along the way.

The film comes exclusively to movie theaters on May 3, 2024.

Bloody Disgusting spoke with Cohen and Halberg ahead of Tarot‘s release, where the pair shared more about the film’s practical effects-driven horrors and revealed how Tarot drew from Insidious in a specific way.

To start, though, the filmmakers reveal just how closely their horror movie sticks to the source novel Horrorscope by Nicholas AdamsThe short answer is, well, it doesn’t at all!

Cohen explains, “It’s so different. We never even read the book and took nothing from the book. The only thingthe studio had a title that they liked, and so that’s why there was an association. Then we changed the title. So, now there’s literally zero connection to the book.

“Sony had come to us wanting to make a horror movie about astrology, but there’s nothing that’s inherently scary to us about Zodiac signs. So, we came up with the idea of combining tarot readings and tarot cards with astrology, and that’s what ended up becoming the movie. There’s such incredible iconography in these cards that we really had a plethora of amazing characters to choose from,” Halberg adds.

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Adain Bradley ‘Grant’ and Jacob Batalon ‘Paxton’ in Screen Gems TAROT

With a group of seven friends, expect to see their fates sealed by a number of cards. In other words, expect to see a wide variety of Tarot-inspired creatures tormenting the protagonists. The filmmakers stressed the importance of practical effects for their creatures.

Cohen tells us, “From the get-go, we said every creature is going to be practical. We were thinking of [David] Cronenberg, of Alien and The Thing, and we want our actors responding to real things, not a tennis ball. It always just looks better. You get better performances. With the designs themselves, if you look at the tarot cards and these specific characters, there’s nothing inherently terrifying about them, even though we associate the cards with being supernatural and terrifying. And [it’s] why we partnered with Trevor [Henderson]who was the only designer we met with. We were like, this is our guy because he has this ability to make the familiar feel unnatural.

“His designs are really grounded. I am sure you’ve seen a lot of his stuff where it’s like a hallway, and there’s something there, and something’s off about it, but it really feels like it’s in the space. We knew that he has a special brain for creating unique creatures, and he hadn’t done a movie, which is just shocking to us. Then, we knew that in order to pull that off, we would need a design team with equal skill. That was Dan Martin and his amazing team who worked hand in hand with Trevor to bring those to life.”

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Larsen Thompson ‘Elise’ in Screen Gems TAROT

Great designs and practical effects are one thing, but it also falls to the performers to infuse these monsters with personality to make them memorable. That was also at the forefront of the filmmakers’ minds.

In order for the creatures to translate, underneath all the prosthetics, you have to have great actors,” Cohen confirms. “We met with a lot of people. We were looking for people who were talking to us about the psychology and the movement and how they could move in a way that we hadn’t seen before or incorporate dance. We were looking for those outliers, and basically, everyone we hired approached the part as if there were no makeup or prosthetics. It’s like, ‘I am the Magician, so this is what I want to do. I’m going to have a limp. My body’s going to do this. I feel like my head is hunched.’ And we would watch these actors just embody these roles. It was really just picking great people, honestly. It’s hard to act through prosthetics and create emotion and fear and other things. You have to have an incredible control to be able to do that.”

Halberg elaborates,” Even though we enhanced some of the creatures with visual effects, we didn’t want to rely on that. So we needed people, like Spenser said, who each brought their own unique feel to these characters. They were just as important as all of the other actors in the movie and are so crucial to making sure that these sequences are scary and believable.”

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Humberly González ‘Madeline’ in Screen Gems TAROT

One of the many Tarot creatures in the film is the Magician, who comes with an original song by the film’s composer, Joseph Bishara. While Bishara has delivered no shortage of great contemporary horror scores, including The Conjuring and Malignant, horror fans are likely more familiar with Bishara as the Lipstick Demon in the Insidious franchise. Cohen and Halberg can be counted among Insidious fans, so much so that they wanted an original song from the Lipstick Demon himself.

They explain, “We actually, in prep, we called Joe, and we said, ‘Hey, we’re going to do some kind of an old-timey song there.’ We knew something creepy, very Shining-esque. Then we had the idea to do a song called ‘I Saw You’ to be a pun on that whole thing. And actually use saws as the instrument. We found these YouTube videos, and our DP, I think, Elie [Smolkin] had found these videos of someone playing a saw. We were like, that’s terrifying.

“So we called Joeand we said, ‘You know Tiptoe through the Tulips, how that’s like in Insidious?’ That’s the thing you leave the theater thinking about, and it gets under your skin. We were like, ‘Can you do that for us with an original song?’ He said yes. What you hear in the movie is basically what he played for us the first time. He was just like, ‘I have an idea. I’ll talk to you guys in a week.’ And then that was what we heard, and it was amazing.”

With so many entities and horror sequences, Halberg can’t pick a favorite. Instead, she offers one last tease, “I hope people come away with the realization that each of the sequences is so unique and different, and that each of the creatures is so special because we took a lot of time trying to craft each of these kills or scares to be their own thing and to feel different.

“Hopefully everybody can choose their own favorite.”

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