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[Interview] ‘The Visit’: M. Night Shyamalan and Jason Blum Talk Overcoming Criticism of Past Projects, Low Budget Horror, and Fear of Death
Rebecca and Tyler are about to meet their grandparents for the very first time. Their mother may have severed ties long ago with folks, stubbornly refusing to see them or even talk to them, Tyler and Becca have insisted on having a week-long visit to their remote farm in snow-covered Philadelphia. Becca, an aspiring teenage filmmaker, decides to film their trip to cut a documentary later; an act which she hopes will further her film career, and perhaps even persuade her mom to give her grandparents another chance. They may have gone to grandma’s house with good intentions, what they find when they get there resembles more of a nightmare than a family reunion. Their grandmother and grandfather have been acting peculiar ever since they arrived, and although at first they initially write off the odd behavior as old age, as their worrisome antics continue, the children start to grow suspicious that there may more to the story of their estranged grandparents, and perhaps a good reason why their mother have driven a barrier between the two camps for all these years.
“Limitations create opportunities” preaches writer/director M. Night Shyamalan, the man behind such popular projects as The Sixth Sense, Signs, After Earth, and the recent hit FOX TV show, Wayward Pines. The man who is usually known for big projects that cost upwards of $100,000 has turned the tables on himself and shocked everyone by getting back to basics, and limiting himself to a found footage thriller with a budget of only $5,000,000. By giving himself such rigid restraints, Shyamalan was forced not only to tackle his screenplay in a different manner, but also to limit himself to a single, confined, reasonably-priced set.
Luckily, he found a happy marriage in a little farmhouse in the outskirts of Pennsylvania. Shyamalan himself resides in the Keystone State, and once he learned of a farm nearby that was going under foreclosure from a bank, he convinced the owners to let him rent the place for six months before they put on the fire sale, to which they happily agreed. “You know I storyboard every shot of my thrillers in general. In this one, I had to put it in the screenplay” explains Shyamalan, “So we had this incredible situation where I had the actual house where I was shooting through pre-production, so I would go with the actors and we would rehearse in the rooms, on the stairs, in the kitchen….there was a lot of times, it was really creepy actually, I would go to the house by myself and just sit there, and just think of the shots, and it was just different because I could really, really plan it out and think it through”.
Aside from allowing him to truly stretch his creative muscles, Shyamalan’s lowest studio budget to date also made finding a home at Blumhouse that much easier. “When you get into expensive movie-making territory, it’s almost impossible not to think about the financial result, but when you make low budget movies, you can put that out of your head and create” producer Jason Blum excitedly states, “One of the reasons I really love low budget filmmaking is you can have more fun, and be more playful, and be freer creatively”.
Although it was Blum who started the conversation about pairing up to do a smaller film for Shyamalan’s next project, surprisingly, Shyamalan opted to retreat away from any outside influence, and complete his entire feature on his own time, not choosing to bring Blum into until it was time to show him a rough cut. By absolving himself of any meddling forces, and restricting himself to a stowaway agrarian piece of land with nothing but handheld cameras and a desire to make a scary movie that reflected his own kooky, part horror, part comedy personality, Shyamalan managed to tap into a pure sense of isolation and uncertainty that hasn’t been present in his films for many years. When asked about the ill-recieved past couple of films that feel so vastly different from his newest feature, Shyamalan insisted that he does not look back and try to improve upon old projects, because to try too hard to create something entirely different would only strangle his creativity. “The second you try to conform, you try to do something else, you aspire to be something other than you are, your light diminishes” stresses Shyamalan. “I can walk away and say, ‘The Visit is one hundred percent me’. That’s such a wonderful feeling, and whatever comes from it, comes from it, because how could the result be wrong, right?”
In order to accomplish the believability of a found footage film, Night sought to find actors who were talented enough to balance the genre-blending of the horror-comedy-drama mash-up, while still being unrecognizable enough to be taken seriously as subjects of a recovered tape. In order to do this, Shyamalan looked to the theater. “I love stage actors” boasts the determined director, going on to explain how with his style of filmmaking, he tends to use less coverage, and more long takes. “Because I do long takes, there’s a trust that happens on the set” tells Shyamalan of how he’d rather explore the characters’ emotions in a scene, rather than trying several different angles of the same shot just to have more material for the editing room. “I am committing to him, as his point of view in this thing, with all of us, rather than coverage”. Shyamalan isn’t looking for an actor who can stand on the X and recite lines, he’s looking for someone who can handle reciting extensive, drawn-out dialogue and commit to a character’s emotional state during the times when the camera refuses to cut away, revealing their vulnerable side. To Shyamalan, a theater actor who recites entire plays nightly without the comfort of taking breaks between scenes is simply more fitting for this style of filmmaking than one who’s more catered to filming a few moments of dialogue before stopping and starting again. For these reasons, when Shyamalan set out to find his grandparents, he eyed two theater vets for the roles — Tony award winner Deanna Dunagan, and character actor Peter McRobbie.
The children in the film, also meant to come across as realistic and believable everyday kids, came as a result of a worldwide search, finally ending in Australia. “If you’re trying to find someone that you guys haven’t really seen that much, where are the biggest pools of untapped talent who can do an American accent?” Apparently, the pools are in Port Jackson.
Despite the fact that the kids are supposed to be the sole directors (or as Becca puts it, Tyler is credited as the B-camera operator) of this little documentary, in the real behind the scenes story of the making of the film, all of the beautiful captured moments of a perfectly timed sunset, or an expertly framed moment of action was caught by cinematographer Maryse Alberti, a woman known for bringing grit and raw emotion to Oscar-nominated 2008 film The Wrestler. With the help of another camera operator, Alberti brought the same unbiased view to the farm’s rugged surroundings, while also managing to emote the romantic idea of an amateur filmmaker on the rise, who cares deeply about the look of the film, as well as its subjects.
Alberti may have filmed the majority of handheld moments throughout the film, but when it came time to shoot the hide-and-seek chase scene under the house, it became clear that the only person small enough to run around in such a tiny space effecitenly was young Ed Oxenbould, who plays Becca’s little brother, Tyler. “We had one day which was a problem, which was the underground where the grandma crawls, the camera operator was too big. He’s a grown man, so he couldn’t keep up and go crawl under there”, recalls Shyamalan. “I look over, and Ed is there, and I’m like, ‘Ed, why don’t you just hold the camera?’ And he’s like, ‘Yeah!’ And he just ran underneath, and he did all of the camera work under the house. He was so proud that day”.
There may have been many joyous moments of laughter and playing on set, but the source material for the film still remains morbid and dark, shaping up the film to be a true black comedy. “The subject of the piece is fear of getting old, which is a variation on our fear of dying”. Shyamalan darkly interprets the distrust of the elderly with man’s primal, innate rejection of the reaper. To him, it’s a subject that when pressed, can create some of the most tension-filled moments in cinema. By toying with the one fear that all humans share, Shyamlan manages to coax discomfort out of the depths of his viewers inner-most subconscious, bring it to light, and poke fun at it. “We’re scared of getting old, and playing on that is a powerful conceit”.
The Visit hits theaters on September 11th.
Interviews
The Work ‘Grind’ Is Hell, So Brea Grant & Ed Dougherty Made a Horror Anthology About It [CFF 2026 Interview]
Genre fans rejoice! Chattanooga Film Festival is back for its 13th year in 2026 with a killer lineup and once again offering audiences both in-person and virtual options. After having its World Premiere at SXSW this spring, the horror comedy anthology Grind is playing CFF 2026 opening weekend.
From a screenplay by Brea Grant (Torn Hearts, 12 Hour Shift) and Ed Dougherty (MLM) and segments directed by Grant, Dougherty, and Chelsea Stardust (Satanic Panic), Grind features four interwoven stories that parody the gig economy, hustle culture, and the evils of late-stage capitalism.
The anthology follows weary everyday people juggling side hustles just to survive, while going up against greedy oligarchs, and cleverly uses dark humor and bloody practical effects to portray a world much like our current economic nightmare.
Bloody Disgusting had the pleasure of chatting with Brea Grant and Ed Dougherty about the socioeconomic commentary in Grind, casting Barbara Crampton as a villain, and DIY filmmaking.

Bloody Disgusting: Every segment in this anthology feels relatable because people are actually struggling to survive in the gig economy right now. How did the two of you come up with the idea of creating Grind?
Brea Grant: Like you said, we were trying to come up with a cool idea that seemed relevant right now. The thing that everyone we know is talking about is the economy, the lack of work, and the nightmare hellscape that is late-stage capitalism. It felt like the right time to write something that really featured that as the main horror. As the main thing that people were scared of, this world sort of came to us over the course of a couple of years.
Ed Dougherty: We wanted to make a hit film, and we said, “Let’s make a horror anthology, that’s the most marketable thing there is.” [laughs]
BG: [laughs] Definitely not!
BD: I love anthologies!
ED: We do, too. We feel like it’s kind of an undervalued form of horror film, but it’s a hard sell.
BG: People told us not to make it. They said, “Don’t make an anthology. It’s too hard to sell.” But we did it anyway.
BD: I guess I’m just one of those weirdos who likes anthologies and watches them all.
ED: We believe that there are a lot of weirdos like you out there. It seems like every good horror anthology has a long life, but it’s just getting over the initial hump that’s difficult.

BD: Chelsea Stardust directed some of the segments with the two of you and serves as a producer. How did she first get involved with this project?
BG: The project has a long history. We shot the first segment, which is about multi-level marketing, a couple of years ago. We had decided we wanted to make a full anthology, but it took us about a year after shooting that initial segment to shoot the rest of the movie. When we did that, we knew we needed to bring on a producer aside from Ed and me, since we were directing the bulk of the movie, so that was how she came on board. I’ve been friends with her for a long time, and the one thing I know about her as a friend is that she is very organized, so it felt like a good fit. I just called her one day and said, “Would you want to produce these three segments that we have left to shoot of Grind?” and she came on board.
BD: There are some fun cameos in Grind, but we have to talk about Barbara Crampton. She’s so good as a villainess. Why did you want her for this role, and what was it like working with her on this film?
BG: She’s in her villain era, which is so fun. [laughs] Obviously, we’re huge Barbara Crampton fans, and when we were making MLM, it was a smaller part of the movie that we knew we needed to call on people who could do a good job but were also friendly to us [laughs]. I’m friends with Barbara Crampton, and we’ve done three movies together before this. So, it felt like someone within our reach, but could also really draw a horror crowd. She has a huge fanbase, and she’s also super supportive of all the projects that she’s been in, so that was also really exciting. She’s a great actress, and she’s super funny. I think a lot of these horror actresses, especially those who came up in the eighties and nineties, weren’t given an opportunity to be funny. I think she was ready to jump on an opportunity that was different than what she was used to; it’s not running around and screaming. She is a cult leader, and she is quite funny in it. She just takes the comedy so well and seriously, and she does such an amazing job with it. She has a scene across from Rob Huebel, who is obviously a comedy master, and I feel like the two of them together were hilarious. It’s been fun to watch Barbara go from these iconic roles to a different kind of role at this point in her career. We’re super happy to be a part of that.
ED: And she loves the movie and has been so supportive. Every time she posts about it, I’m like, “I can’t believe this. This is amazing.”

BD: This is an accurate parody of the current socioeconomic situation in this country, as well as our obsession with online culture. It repeatedly asks the question, “What are you willing to do to make money,” in a world with wealth inequality and evil oligarchs. It’s fun, and it’s a horror movie, but it’s thought-provoking. What do you hope audiences take away from Grind, besides having a good time?
ED: I read every review and every Letterboxd review; Brea does not. So, I’ve seen it all. I’ve seen some reviews that say, “Good movie but doesn’t propose a solution.” I think we do propose a solution, which is that the power of unions and organizing is the only way that we will be able to fight back against oligarchs. I do think that is the message of the film. Organizing is the only way to defeat these villains. I do think we have a lot to say in the film. I’d want someone to say, “Man, I’ve never seen a horror anthology that had a political message before.” [laughs]
BG: I think the other thing is that what is currently happening is that we live in a world in which people kind of feel alone in this. They’re like, “Well, I’m doing bad, “or “I’m having trouble paying my rent.” We wanted to hang a lantern on the fact that this is happening to everyone, that wealth disparity is at an all-time high. We’re pointing out to people that you aren’t in this alone; you’re not the only person doing side hustles. Every filmmaker friend I have is working a side job of some sort at this point, and that is just in Los Angeles. Outside of this city, I think things are more dire. I think it was about infusing some politics into something that could make people realize that they aren’t alone and that there are ways of fighting back and fighting the system that has been set up against them.
ED: I think the tone of the movie, which is darkly comedic, also really matches the tone of life right now. Everything seems almost at a parody level as far as the disconnect between oligarchs and trying to make a living and reality. The absurdist nature of the film kind of captures the real tone of life.

BD: There are some cool creature effects and makeup effects in this movie. Can you talk a little bit about the practical effects and makeup?
ED: I think especially because of the message of the film, which is pushing back against the current hellscape we’re in, we wanted to use as many practical effects as possible. We used matte paintings, miniatures, and practical creature effects. I’m always afraid of the matte painting because we used the old school matte painter, but they do look a little AI. I heard someone make a noise behind me during one of the shots, and I was like, “I hope that noise wasn’t them using AI because that’s a matte painting.” [laughs] There’s also the fact that it’s pretty DIY. It’s a film that we financed ourselves and shot in our houses as much as possible. We wanted the whole thing to feel handmade and very tactile.
BG: We’re old school horror fans, so we love seeing practical effects. The practical stuff is really fun for us. It’s the stuff that we think is actually cool. [laughs] So, practical stuff made the most sense for us. We both grew up in the punk scene in the nineties, and I think it just kind of comes naturally to us to try to do things ourselves. And we both work on projects for big companies, with smaller companies, but always for other people, so trying to do something ourselves to see what that felt like was also part of the experiment of Grind.
ED: This was our chance to do everything we wanted our way.
Grind screens at the Chattanooga Film Festival on June 20.

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