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‘Haunted Mansion’ – How Director Justin Simien Captured the Disney Ride’s Subversive Tone [Interview]

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Disney’s Haunted Mansion has officially materialized in theaters nationwide, unleashing 999 grim grinning ghosts upon audiences. 

Justin Simien (Dear White People, Bad Hair) directed the new live-action adaptation of the famous, long-running Disney theme park attraction from the screenplay by Katie Dippold (Ghostbusters, “Parks and Recreation”). 

Bloody Disgusting spoke with Simien for the film’s release about capturing the unique tone of the dark ride and what stars LaKeith Stanfield and Chase Dillon brought to the production.

The family-friendly feature emphasizes humor, but Haunted Mansion doesn’t shy away from inducing frights or tugging at the heartstrings.

Simien took the gateway scares seriously, stemming from his lifelong love of horror that began in childhood. The director’s origins with horror give insight into his approach to crafting gateway scares that don’t talk down to the film’s younger audience.

One of my core memories is watching Nightmare on Elm Street at five years old. My aunt Zara just let me watch it, and that blew me away,” Simien explains. “First of all, I was too young to really understand the implications of it, but there was something in my queer, Black heart that just related to Freddy and related to the horror fantasy of it all. And yeah, I remember being a little kid, and I didn’t like kiddie stuff. I knew when a movie was gaslighting me or telling me the world is all rainbows and puppy dogs. And weirdly enough, I loved Disney movies growing up because of that.

With my cinematographer and my production designer, we watched the sequence in Snow White a few times where she gets lost in the woods. It is a brilliantly executed example of cinematic horror, and it’s right there in the middle of the first Disney feature film for children about a princess. So, I never felt shy about going there, and I made the movie I’d want to see at Chase Dillon’s age and the movie I wanted to see at LaKeith’s age and my age. That was just my approach going into it.”

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Owen Wilson as Father Kent in Disney’s HAUNTED MANSION. Photo courtesy of Disney. © 2023 Disney Enterprises, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

The filmmaker’s approach to the distinct blend of comedy, gateway horror, and heart was as much about honoring his inner monster kid as ensuring he did the dark ride justice.

Simien tells us, “It’s something Walt Disney himself understood. It’s something that is baked into the DNA of the ride. I was inspired by and struck by the creative debate that happened when they were making this ride in 1968 between, should it be cute? Should it be funny? Should it be scary? Should it be musical? What should it be? And they landed on, yes, all of the above. That’s part of why the ride is so enduring. When you lean into the details, they’re quite subversive. Grim Grinning Ghosts, 999, that’s an interesting thing to see everywhere on a Disney ride. You look at some of these ghosts; they’re holding cocktail glasses, and it’s a subversive ride. You feel like when you’re on that ride, and I couldn’t put my finger on it as a kid, I wasn’t able to articulate until much later, but you feel like you’re seeing things you’re not supposed to see, and that’s part of the thrill of it.

“So from my standpoint, what I was doing was honoring the source material more than anything and responding to the kind of movie, as I said, I would want to see as a kid, but also the one I want to see right now from this material. And that ride is hilarious, and it’s sneaky, subversive, and it’s really fun, charming, and wholesome too. I don’t know how they did it, but that was the goal point; that was the bar we were trying to rise to.”

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(L-R): Chase Dillon as Travis, Rosario Dawson as Gabbie, LaKeith Stanfield as Ben, Owen Wilson as Father Kent, and Tiffany Haddish as Harriet in Disney’s HAUNTED MANSION. Photo by Jalen Marlowe. © 2023 Disney Enterprises, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

As fantastical as the inner walls of the Haunted Mansion itself can be, Simien took great care to pay tribute to its home city of New Orleans. Honoring the city’s essence was pivotal in the film’s casting.

Simien explains, “When I first signed up to do the movie, it was really important to me to have a Black lead first and foremost. Not for a political reason, although just being a Black gay man making movies, everything I do is somewhat politicized. But because it took place in New Orleans and because New Orleans is an 85% Black city, that might be the one ingredient of New Orleans that I didn’t necessarily feel in any of the lore of the mansion that I had encountered previously and that I thought was important. Once that decision was made, it was a small list of somebody who could bring general audiences into a character that is grieving and is kind of snarky, kind of hates people, and doesn’t know how to talk to children. That kind of person is hard to care about as a hero in a movie. And I had just seen LaKeith in Judas and the Black Messiah, and I thought it was remarkable how he made me care about somebody I should loathe in that movie.

“I thought, if he could do that with that kind of character, I know he can do this. He’s this charming, funny, soulful person. He, to me, is right there on the cusp of being a big leading man, a star. Then when we thought about who the kid should be, Carmen Cuba, who casts the movie with me, Chase Dillon was literally the first name that anyone brought up. It wasn’t even a question. We had all seen Underground Railroad and thought he was remarkable there. But then, meeting him, he is so funny and so wise above his years. If anything, we had to keep reminding him, ‘You’re nine in the movie.’ Like a real nine, but just born to do this. I mean, he’s remarkable. He’s got that Haley Joel Osment thing where you can’t believe so much soul and heart and craft is coming from this little body, but it is.”

Disney’s Haunted Mansion is in theaters now.

Horror journalist, RT Top Critic, and Critics Choice Association member. Co-Host of the Bloody Disgusting Podcast. Has appeared on PBS series' Monstrum, served on the SXSW Midnighter shorts jury, and moderated horror panels for WonderCon and SeriesFest.

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‘Tarot’ Filmmakers Spenser Cohen & Anna Halberg on Practical Creature Effects and ‘Insidious’ Inspirations

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An evil curse gets awakened in Screen Gems horror movie Tarot when a group of friends recklessly ignore a sacred rule: never use someone else’s deck. Writers/Directors Spenser Cohen & Anna Halberg unleash a variety of Tarot card-inspired entities on the group through practical effects, and create an unexpected connection to Insidious along the way.

The film comes exclusively to movie theaters on May 3, 2024.

Bloody Disgusting spoke with Cohen and Halberg ahead of Tarot‘s release, where the pair shared more about the film’s practical effects-driven horrors and revealed how Tarot drew from Insidious in a specific way.

To start, though, the filmmakers reveal just how closely their horror movie sticks to the source novel Horrorscope by Nicholas AdamsThe short answer is, well, it doesn’t at all!

Cohen explains, “It’s so different. We never even read the book and took nothing from the book. The only thingthe studio had a title that they liked, and so that’s why there was an association. Then we changed the title. So, now there’s literally zero connection to the book.

“Sony had come to us wanting to make a horror movie about astrology, but there’s nothing that’s inherently scary to us about Zodiac signs. So, we came up with the idea of combining tarot readings and tarot cards with astrology, and that’s what ended up becoming the movie. There’s such incredible iconography in these cards that we really had a plethora of amazing characters to choose from,” Halberg adds.

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Adain Bradley ‘Grant’ and Jacob Batalon ‘Paxton’ in Screen Gems TAROT

With a group of seven friends, expect to see their fates sealed by a number of cards. In other words, expect to see a wide variety of Tarot-inspired creatures tormenting the protagonists. The filmmakers stressed the importance of practical effects for their creatures.

Cohen tells us, “From the get-go, we said every creature is going to be practical. We were thinking of [David] Cronenberg, of Alien and The Thing, and we want our actors responding to real things, not a tennis ball. It always just looks better. You get better performances. With the designs themselves, if you look at the tarot cards and these specific characters, there’s nothing inherently terrifying about them, even though we associate the cards with being supernatural and terrifying. And [it’s] why we partnered with Trevor [Henderson]who was the only designer we met with. We were like, this is our guy because he has this ability to make the familiar feel unnatural.

“His designs are really grounded. I am sure you’ve seen a lot of his stuff where it’s like a hallway, and there’s something there, and something’s off about it, but it really feels like it’s in the space. We knew that he has a special brain for creating unique creatures, and he hadn’t done a movie, which is just shocking to us. Then, we knew that in order to pull that off, we would need a design team with equal skill. That was Dan Martin and his amazing team who worked hand in hand with Trevor to bring those to life.”

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Larsen Thompson ‘Elise’ in Screen Gems TAROT

Great designs and practical effects are one thing, but it also falls to the performers to infuse these monsters with personality to make them memorable. That was also at the forefront of the filmmakers’ minds.

In order for the creatures to translate, underneath all the prosthetics, you have to have great actors,” Cohen confirms. “We met with a lot of people. We were looking for people who were talking to us about the psychology and the movement and how they could move in a way that we hadn’t seen before or incorporate dance. We were looking for those outliers, and basically, everyone we hired approached the part as if there were no makeup or prosthetics. It’s like, ‘I am the Magician, so this is what I want to do. I’m going to have a limp. My body’s going to do this. I feel like my head is hunched.’ And we would watch these actors just embody these roles. It was really just picking great people, honestly. It’s hard to act through prosthetics and create emotion and fear and other things. You have to have an incredible control to be able to do that.”

Halberg elaborates,” Even though we enhanced some of the creatures with visual effects, we didn’t want to rely on that. So we needed people, like Spenser said, who each brought their own unique feel to these characters. They were just as important as all of the other actors in the movie and are so crucial to making sure that these sequences are scary and believable.”

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Humberly González ‘Madeline’ in Screen Gems TAROT

One of the many Tarot creatures in the film is the Magician, who comes with an original song by the film’s composer, Joseph Bishara. While Bishara has delivered no shortage of great contemporary horror scores, including The Conjuring and Malignant, horror fans are likely more familiar with Bishara as the Lipstick Demon in the Insidious franchise. Cohen and Halberg can be counted among Insidious fans, so much so that they wanted an original song from the Lipstick Demon himself.

They explain, “We actually, in prep, we called Joe, and we said, ‘Hey, we’re going to do some kind of an old-timey song there.’ We knew something creepy, very Shining-esque. Then we had the idea to do a song called ‘I Saw You’ to be a pun on that whole thing. And actually use saws as the instrument. We found these YouTube videos, and our DP, I think, Elie [Smolkin] had found these videos of someone playing a saw. We were like, that’s terrifying.

“So we called Joeand we said, ‘You know Tiptoe through the Tulips, how that’s like in Insidious?’ That’s the thing you leave the theater thinking about, and it gets under your skin. We were like, ‘Can you do that for us with an original song?’ He said yes. What you hear in the movie is basically what he played for us the first time. He was just like, ‘I have an idea. I’ll talk to you guys in a week.’ And then that was what we heard, and it was amazing.”

With so many entities and horror sequences, Halberg can’t pick a favorite. Instead, she offers one last tease, “I hope people come away with the realization that each of the sequences is so unique and different, and that each of the creatures is so special because we took a lot of time trying to craft each of these kills or scares to be their own thing and to feel different.

“Hopefully everybody can choose their own favorite.”

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