Interviews
‘Hell House LLC Origins: The Carmichael Manor’ Director Stephen Cognetti on New Setting and Franchise’s Future
Writer/director Stephen Cognetti’s Hell House LLC Origins: The Carmichael Manor, the fourth installment in the found footage series, leaves the Abaddon Hotel behind for new scares and terrain. And it’s streaming NOW. Hell House LLC Origins: The Carmichael Manor began streaming exclusively on Shudder on October 30, 2023.
For the film’s release, Bloody Disgusting spoke to Cognetti about creating an original story away from the Abaddon and keeping the scares fresh within the found footage format.
For the filmmaker, Hell House LLC III: Lake of Fire closed the chapter on Abaddon Hotel. The Carmichael Manor explores more of the origins behind the hotel’s mythology, yet it’s set in the present at an entirely different location, though not too far from the Abaddon Hotel.
It turns out that Lake of Fire was very nearly the end of the franchise for Cognetti, except he couldn’t shake loose some unexplored corners of the story.

He explains, “I didn’t want to do anything related to the hotel because, at the end of the third one, I decided to burn it down and just end that storyline. That was always just like, ‘Okay, that’s it. I’m done with Hell House movies. Burn them all down.’ But then it always itched at me. It was like, ‘Hey, why don’t you explore a little bit more the story and write it?’ I had actually written three years ago about 120 pages of a script about what happened at the Abaddon Hotel in the eighties. And what the cult was doing. What would the effect be on the surrounding town and the people who worked there, including Patrick Carmichael?
“So, I wanted to tell a whole new story but bring some breadcrumbs into that story about what happened in the eighties. Since I already had that whole story written, it was really easy for me to write the script and just find out where I wanted to put pieces of the puzzle about what I’ve already written about what happened in the eighties into it. We never really see in the hotel; in that part, we see from a family member’s home movie what happened, how it affected another member of the family, Patrick Carmichael, so we can make inferences about what was going on his struggle, what was going on, what was he doing at the hotel, and just showing there’s a lot more there. We showed this tip of the iceberg, and we know that there’s so much more underneath that. I think that’s cool. I love doing stuff like that, just showing little pieces of something when you know there’s a lot more that’s unseen. And so that was the whole idea. I thought it would just be a cool way of making an original story, but also just having some pieces of the mythology in there as well.”
The Carmichael Manor keeps the scares feeling fresh, which is no easy task now four films deep into a found footage franchise. Cognetti breaks down how the new setting helped.
“I found that going into Hell House two and three that it was very tough to still do, found footage fresh, but do it in the exact same spot,” Cognetti reflects. “That was the biggest challenge, especially going into three. I’m like, all right, we’re back in the same hotel; how are we going to make it scary again in the same format we’ve always used? But it was a different angle. It was like a live interactive play, which I love. What we did with ‘Sleep No More’ in New York City is kind of tailored after that, which is interactive Shakespeare and everyone wears masks. So, I loved putting that into three. But you’re right; found footage is a tough medium. Whenever I’m filming found footage, I always go, ‘I hate not having coverage. I would love to see the reverse shot of this or another angle of this scare,’ but I have to justify why that camera would be there. I can’t always do that. But it also helps you in so many different ways, though. It’s why we do low budget. It’s why we can shoot the film in less than two weeks.”
It wasn’t found footage or the scares that presented the biggest hurdle for Cognetti, but rather the setting. He tells us, “I think the biggest challenge for me is when I wrote the title of the Carmichael Manor’s screenplay, I painted myself into a corner. Like now I got to find a manor.”

Yet, not only did Cognetti succeed in finding his manor, but it presented fertile ground for scare inspiration.
He explains, “This place is a beautiful mansion, and it had everything we want. When I found the mansion, I had to tweak a lot of the scares. So, the early scare with Chase [James Liddell], when he sees the shadows moving across the wall in the hallway, that was something I rewrote specifically for that hallway because the previous mansions I had scouted out didn’t have that layout, so I wrote that scare completely different. I was just adapting. I adapted some scares to fit that mansion, but I just lucked out finding that place. It was perfect for it. Just like we lucked out finding the Abaddon Hotel place back in the original Hell House as well.”
The Carmichael Manor includes a post-credits scene that all but begs for a continuation. Cognetti still has plenty of stories left to tell with the franchise’s mythology, too, and the filmmaker teases where he’d like to take it next.
“I make references to this event in a few of the movies, including this one, but also the third one as well is what happened at the Rockland County Fair, back in the day. That’s something I always talk about, this event, and never really making it. Maybe in the future, I will, but that’s another thing, just the eighties, it’s something I like to talk about. Hopefully, one day, I’ll be able to make it, but I can’t, so I just keep on referencing it,” Cognetti details.
“I would love to know what happened there at the Rockland County Fair, why it closed down. Young Margot was there as well. There’s the tie in there, but also that they’re going to bring the fair back, and they’re going to have it near, in the county of Rockland. That’s been something that’s always been building up the whole time, knowing this is going to come back, and what does that mean for the town? That’s where I would love to go with it. But once you bring in something with so many moving pieces and extras and moving parts like a fair, that’s where you get out of the low-budget found footage realm, and you’re like, you better have a budget for that, which we don’t right now.
“If I make another Hell House, especially in this timeline where we’re going with this stuff, I want to venture away from found footage, too. I want to move into narrative. And again, that’s all about budget as well.”
Interviews
George A. Romero’s ‘Day of the Dead’ Gets New Life After Search for Long-Lost Film Elements
“I was told that this couldn’t be found by some people that I worked with, and that just set a fire in me,” Scream Factory producer Jeff Roland says of the newly restored Day of the Dead in 4K from the seemingly long-lost original interpositive.
The four-disc release, loaded with special features and new interviews in addition to the restoration, arrives almost exactly three years after Roland began his long pursuit of the missing elements that he was warned were lost to time.
It’s a fitting journey for Day of the Dead, the third film in horror master George A. Romero‘s zombie series, considering the film’s long road to reappraisal after its initial failure at the box office in 1985. A huge departure from the popular Dawn of the Dead, the third film set its battle for humanity’s survival in an underground bunker, waged between a small group of scientists and ruthless soldiers.
It was underground where Roland began his pursuit of the missing interpositive elements, starting with the old-fashioned paper trail in Scream Factory’s basement, sorting through records from their 2013 Blu-ray release.
Scream Factory’s Years-Long Quest to Restore a Horror Classic

“So, there I was, going through boxes and boxes and boxes, trying to find this one specific invoice for a delivery company amongst thousands of pieces of paper,” Roland tells Bloody Disgusting. “That was the start. I was able to figure out the delivery service, and from there, it just went into a whirlwind of… drama? Yeah, there was some drama in there at one point; I thought it had been stolen by someone.”
Roland notes of his Indiana Jones-like journey, “the short and sweet of it is, it took forever, I was trying to find leads. Anything. I was seeing ridiculous things online, you know, like it was in a diamond mine in South Africa. I even followed up on that. I thought it would be hilarious if it were actually being kept in the Wampum mine. So I called them, and this poor woman who answered the phone sounded like she got this call every other day.”
Roland notes, “The records, for film vaults and such, aren’t the greatest. I’ll just say that. So, I think that’s, over time, that’s something that we definitely need to improve upon in this business.”
John Harrison Reflects on Day of the Dead‘s Surprising Legacy and Original Vision

While now considered another Romero zombie classic, critics and audiences rejected Day of the Dead at first, especially the Caribbean-style theme music from composer and first assistant director John Harrison.
Few are as surprised by the massive shift in the film’s reception as Harrison. The filmmaker and longtime Romero collaborator reflects, “Now, if you had asked any of us, and George included, that, ‘hey man, you know, in 45 years, this movie’s gonna be considered like a cinema classic.’ We all probably would have said, ‘Oh, we’re making a movie, man. We’re just having fun making a movie, and God, can you believe it, that people are paying us to do this?’ I don’t want to minimize it. I don’t want to say that we were just goofing around.”
Harrison continues, “All of us were really serious about our craft and about what we were trying to do. But I don’t think that any of us, maybe George, hopefully, had some feeling that his films would last for a while. I was a kid, you know? I just wanted to have fun, make movies, and be part of that whole scene. So, it was really disappointing when Day came out, because it was a bomb. I mean, let’s be truthful about it. It was a bomb. And people hated the score. So, 40-some years later, it’s become, for some people, the apogee of that first dead trilogy. The best of the three in its own way.”
Harrison also points out that Romero’s Land of the Dead would later face a similar reception and reappraisal, which was all the more fascinating considering early budget cuts caused Romero to drastically scale back Day of the Dead‘s story. A lot of what was excised was later revisited in Land of the Dead. “That was actually part of the original Day of the Dead concept,” Harrison explains of the 2005 film.
“Because of budget and schedule and so forth and so on, and ratings,” he tells BD. “George couldn’t do it, and that’s why we ended up with the more condensed version of Day of the Dead, which everybody now knows and loves. In a way, I’m kind of glad, because it has a real identity being trapped in those caves, and the end of the world, the two sides of society. Going at it, headbutting, to try and survive. But the whole Fiddler’s Green idea and all of that stuff that ended up in Land of the Dead was part of the original Day.”
George Romero Predicted Social Media and Modern Culture

Suzanne Romero, founder & president of the George A. Romero Foundation and the late filmmaker’s wife, breaks down the film’s trajectory even further. “The original Day of the Dead script, I think, at one point, it was written for a $12 million budget, and it was basically cut in half. And it’s a great script. But that’s what happens with filmmakers, and you gotta make do.”
She continues, “But I really think that this film is really for the fans and people who love physical media. And in terms of the foundation, well, anytime George Romero is mentioned is good, because what we are doing is to provide a healthy legacy. We’re uplifting his legacy, we’re supporting the archive, and we’re also supporting the Horror Study Center. So, all of these three things are what the Foundation is striving to do. As far as I’m concerned, the more we say George Romero’s name, the better it is.”
The mention of Land of the Dead brings up one recurring theme of Romero’s work: the filmmaker’s ability to keep his pulse so thoroughly on the current social climate in a way that feels prescient.
Roland agrees, “I think one of the most amazing things that doesn’t get talked about enough is in 2007, he came out with Diary of the Dead. That pretty much predicted YouTube culture. I mean, we’re going through it right now, the exact things that were happening in Diary of the Dead. It’s incredible.”
“Well, that was intentional,” Harrison says, “because I was part of that and worked with Peter [Grunwald] and George on developing that whole script and production. And that was definitely intentional. There was nothing accidental or, ‘Great timing, guys!’ It was not like that at all. It was intentional.”
Suzanne Romero agrees, “[George] was very wary of social media, but very wary of the internet. He was always very suspicious and thought that we ought to beware; we ought to be walking very carefully into this space.“
“Which we haven’t done, of course,” Harrison adds.
“No, of course not,” Romero responds. “And AI. I mean, he would be writing about AI right now and thinking, danger! What the fuck are you doing, people? But not only that, but he also did it in a layman’s way. You know, he really brought it to very familiar language, and people that spoke to each other, it was in a very natural way, and it was the way he developed characters. The way he evolved with how his women were more powerful, because he kind of regretted that in Night of the Living Dead, [Barbra] was weak. He always thought the women ought to be much stronger, and I think it started with Season of the Witch.”
Everyone Wanted to Be a Zombie in a Romero Movie

George A. Romero’s legacy certainly looms large over Scream Factory’s impressive new release, offering a comprehensive look at Day of the Dead through a dizzying number of new audio commentaries, featurettes, and interviews detailing everything from the “mine fever” that spread among the cast and crew to Ernest Dickerson‘s high-pressure day on set running the second unit camera.
That’s also reflected in Romero’s zombies themselves, dating back to 1968’s Night of the Living Dead.
“In Pittsburgh, it was a badge of honor to be a zombie in a George Romero movie,” Harrison recounts. “Everybody from the Dean of Students at Carnegie Mellon to the presidents of corporations. I had a story that came out of Dawn. I was pitching a commercial for my own little company, and I’d done a bit for George as ‘Screwdriver Zombie’ on Dawn. I didn’t get cleaned up enough, and I went to this meeting at the first thing in the morning. The vice president of this bank is looking at me, going, ‘Is there something wrong with you?’ I said, ‘No, no, that’s what I know? I’m fine.’ He said, ‘Well, you’re bleeding out of your ear.’ Okay, so then I had to tell them the whole story. And he listened to it, and I thought, well, this is gonna be ridiculous. I’m coming in talking about being a zombie in a movie, and I want to sell him this, like, multi-thousand-dollar commercial that the bank is gonna pay for. He listened very carefully to me, and he said, ‘Well, listen, we’ll talk about the commercial, but do you think I could be a zombie in one?”
That hasn’t changed in the present, either.
Suzanne Romero confirms, “We’re producing George’s film, Twilight of the Dead, and we get requests, ‘Can I be a zombie in this film?’ So, even today, people are very interested, and yet it’s terrible. I mean, it’s hours and hours of makeup.”
Scream Factory’s Day of the Dead four-disc 4K UHD + Blu-ray Collector’s Edition releases on June 16.

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