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Ralph Fiennes and Chi Lewis-Parry on Their Characters’ Unique Connection in ’28 Years Later: The Bone Temple’

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Samson (Chi Lewis-Parry) and Dr. Kelson (Ralph Fiennes) in Columbia Pictures' 28 YEARS LATER: THE BONE TEMPLE.

While deranged cult leader Jimmy Crystal (Jack O’Connell) wreaks havoc in sequel 28 Years Later: The Bone Temple, Dr. Kelson (Ralph Fiennes) continues his experimentation with the infected Alpha he dubbed Samson (Chi Lewis-Parry).

The unusual connection between the empathetic doctor and his unlikely Rage-infected patient leads to potentially world-changing consequences in the second installment of the trilogy, with Nia DaCosta (Candyman 2021, The Marvels) taking the directorial reins from Danny Boyle, from a script by Alex Garland (28 Days Later, 28 Years Later).

Dr. Kelson instantly intrigued in 28 Years Later for his compassion and empathy in an unforgiving world that’s largely written him off, and that continues in a sequel that immediately picks up from the events of the previous film. 

Fiennes, when speaking to Bloody Disgusting ahead of the film’s release on January 16, reflected on Dr. Kelson’s mindset and unwavering empathy. “I think he’s written as empathetic, he’s essentially a man who’s, he’s a doctor, he cares. He has no agenda. He’s got this task of honoring the dead. I think he’s a combination, isn’t he, of sort of doctor and a mortician, and I think he must have unusual psychological stamina, that within the small amount of possessions he’s retained, books and records, he’s been able to keep some rationale alive. He hasn’t gone mad. Some people would’ve gone violent, or gone mad, or committed suicide, he’s got some strong interior.

Kelson’s connection with Samson helps keep him sane, Fiennes suggests. “I think his project gives him meaning, gives life meaning for him, and he recognizes he might die, but he’s unusual. He’s something of a medieval figure who survives in a sort of landscape of plague. They’re odd, I think they’re odd, he’s almost a sort of priest-like as well. Yeah. I can only think he’s held on to something. There are people, I think, with extraordinary psychological stamina, who will hold on, and keep by reading and listening to music, and just keep connected to a sense of the rational.

Dr. Kelson (Ralph Fiennes) in Columbia Pictures’ 28 YEARS LATER: THE BONE TEMPLE.

That connection, in many ways, becomes the film’s beating heart. It’s a bond that came naturally for the actors, according to Lewis-Parry.

He explains, “I think the connection is so strong in the film because our connection in real life is strong, sturdy. We’d already established that whilst filming the first film, towards the end of it, with our brief interaction in that. But it’s easy when you like who you’re around, and I like absolutely everybody on that set. To get to share the screen with Ralph, as much as I do in The Bone Temple, what you are seeing there is two people who genuinely like each other. So, it never felt like work. It felt like, ‘Hey, I’m going to try this, and I’m going to trust you, and that developed into what you see. Some of the scenes that you see, I believe, were improvised. So, it’s just what we came up with in that moment, and it obviously reads because it’s been used in the final cut.”

The Bone Temple gives us an even closer look at Samson and the world of the infected than 28 Years Later. Considering the character’s nonverbal, imposing frame, Lewis-Parry gives insight into Samon’s perspective in the second installment. “I believe that Samson is seeking help; he doesn’t want to be what he is anymore. He sees that opportunity in Kelson and Kelson’s kindness. Kelson hasn’t given up on himself, and he’s been able to survive this long and maintain a level of intellectual competence with the reading and the music, but Samson is seeing an opportunity to survive beyond what he is, which is a grotesque monster.”

Samson (Chi Lewis-Parry) in Columbia Pictures’ 28 YEARS LATER: THE BONE TEMPLE.

 

Horror journalist, RT Top Critic, and Critics Choice Association member. Has appeared on PBS series' Monstrum, served on the SXSW Midnighter shorts jury, and moderated horror panels for WonderCon, SeriesFest, and Popcorn Frights Film Fest.

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Paul Tremblay on Fighting AI with Horror in New Novel ‘Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep’

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Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep Review - Paul Tremblay AI Horror

Paul Tremblay didn’t start his writing career believing he’d be battling machines over the sanctity of his job, but like so many writers of his generation, the battle found him. In the years since Large Language Models (LLMs) and neural networks started gaining traction as an advertised shortcut to creativity, Tremblay has been active in lawsuits to prevent the use of his works in training AI models, and he’s found that, with each new project, he has to consider the possibility that some LLM, somewhere, is going to latch on to what he’s creating. 

“Now I feel like I’m thinking about, ‘Man, how am I going to write things that would be really hard or impossible for an AI to replicate?’,” Tremblay told me, speaking by Zoom from his home in Massachusetts. “Maybe some of that is ego. I’m sure every writer thinks, ‘Oh, an AI could never write what I write.’ Yes, I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t part of the thought process.”

While that’s something Tremblay might consider with any new work at this point in his career, the Bram Stoker Award-winning author of A Head Full of Ghosts, The Cabin at the End of the World, and many other novels and short stories tackled it in a more direct way with his latest book. Inspired by Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, and the quirky humor of the Coen Brothers, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is Tremblay’s attempt at a sci-fi-horror mash-up that’s both darkly funny and existentially nightmarish. It’s also, in his own words, a screed against the movement by AI companies to supplant human artists. 

I didn’t want to make it too didactic, but no, I playfully described this book as an anti-AI screed,” he said. “This book, in particular, was driven by anger and frustration, for sure. Not every book is going to be driven that way.

Despite the emotions that fueled it, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep does not read like a screed. Instead, wielding offbeat humor and tech concepts that feel both lived-in and frighteningly tactile, the book lays out tandem narratives all building to the same conclusion, each of them exploring our relationship to machine learning in a different way. One of these narratives belongs to Julia, a former gaming streamer looking for a new challenge in life, who gets a call from a California tech company with an interesting offer.

Paul Tremblay in documentary series “First Word on Horror”

The company has, it seems, implanted some new technology in a brain-dead middle-aged man which will, in theory, allow them to pilot the man’s body through a rudimentary, still-developing system of controls. Julia, with her gaming background, would be the pilot, in her own way just as much a test subject as the human vegetable she’s controlling. 

Julia is a Gen Z streamer with an omnivorous pop culture appetite, inspired by Tremblay’s own adult children, who riffs on The Big Lebowski constantly and calls her strange new meat puppet “Bernie” in reference to Weekend at Bernie’s. Her wide frame of reference, and her interest in art and stories far beyond video games, is in part informed by Tremblay’s own experiences with Gen Z, and in part a response to AI companies who scrape art and culture as a means of consuming it for reference without really experiencing a story. 

“I know that one of the arguments that OpenAI and other tech companies are trying to make is like, ‘Hey, you writers, you artists, you take pop culture, you take your influences, and you create something. That’s just the same thing that the bots are doing.’ And it’s just not,” Tremblay said. “I wanted to have Julia have her outlook informed by all this pop culture, and I wanted to make that feel really human as a way to show how inhuman the AI is.”

The other side of the story belongs to “Bernie,” who’s addressed in his point-of-view chapters as “You.” In these chapters, the technology in Bernie’s body starts to flicker images through his seemingly dead brain, delivering half-remembered imagery and perspective in a nod to the “hallucinations” of an AI model groping for understanding it can never reach. These chapters in particular show off Tremblay’s flair for formalist shake-ups, and echo the kind of hyperstimulated writing that Dick and Ellison made so influential. 

“I think it was more just the general Philip K. Dick feeling of ‘The world is so strange,'” Tremblay said. “He’s a lot funnier, I think, than maybe a lot of people credit him. That’s definitely what I was thinking of when writing the book.

Bernie’s chapters embody the strangeness of Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep, presenting imagery that’s at times puzzling, at times eerily filmic, and always unnerving. They also mirror Julia’s own journey in fascinating ways as the odd couple – the Gen Z gamer and the middle-aged vegetable – traverse the United States, and the tech in Bernie’s body wakes up to the possibilities of using his flesh for its own purposes. It’s a compelling narrative technique, but it presented some new writing challenges for Tremblay. 

“I quickly realized I couldn’t write this book the same way I have in the past,” he said. “By that, I mean all my other novels I had written in the order in which it was presented, even things that are nonlinear, which is most of them. I knew I couldn’t do that in this book. It’s not a spoiler, but hopefully the readers figure out pretty early that the Bernie chapters are a little bit of a preview of the next chapter from Julia, what’s actually happening with Julia. It’s all refracted from him.”

Mary Roach’s Stiff

Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep began with a simple image, inspired by Tremblay’s reading of Mary Roach‘s book chronicling the history of our treatment of corpses, Stiff. As he read, Tremblay imagined a body sitting on an airplane, remote-controlled by someone else. At the time, it was a “silly what-if” concept, filed away in his head. Years later, when he became an author suing a tech company to keep AI from scraping his work for ideas, it started to feel frighteningly plausible, taking the “silly what-if” into the territory of a high-concept horror show about what happens when we try to exploit and commodify uniquely human aspects of consciousness. 

“It stuck with me,” Tremblay said of that what-if imagery. “And then a few years later, when I was a part of the case suing OpenAI on behalf of writers, that what-if suddenly didn’t seem as silly. The more I learned about how that corporation operates and without really any sort of ethical thought to anything, I was like, ‘Oh, I’m going to play with that. That’s actually happening.”

So, what if someone actually in favor of generative AI picks up Tremblay’s self-described “anti-AI screed?” He hopes that, at the very least, he’s made the ride enjoyable in a distinctly human way that might begin to reshape the conversation. 

“I think that was another reason why I wanted to have the humor,” Tremblay said. “If people are reading this book who aren’t on the side of like, ‘Hey, LLMs taking authors’ books is bad,’ maybe if they read something that’s cut with some humor, that maybe they’ll be more easily swayed.”

Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is now in bookstores everywhere. 

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