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Ari Aster‘s Hereditary is the horror film that everyone is talking about this year. Ever since the film premiered at Sundance back in January, reviews have been positively glowing. As of this writing, Hereditary is sitting at a mighty comfortable 100% on Rotten Tomatoes (with a 9.1/10 average rating) and an 89/100 score on Metacritic. I was nervous going into the film, but if my review out of SXSW didn’t give you any indication, I’m completely won over. I just saw the film for a second time last week and I’m happy to report that it is even better on a second viewing. I was fortunate enough to speak with Aster and actor Alex Wolff about the film’s origins and their feelings about the response the film will receive from mainstream audiences.

One of the most shocking things about Hereditary is the fact that it is directed by a first-time feature filmmaker. Though Aster got his start directing short films, Hereditary is his feature-length directorial debut, and it’s one of the most confident, assured debuts to come along in years. So how did Aster come up with the idea for Hereditary? Rather than come up with a plot, he actually came up with certain scenes and moments from the film first.

“There were a few images that I guess sparked it for me,” Aster told us. “One being an event that takes place 30 minutes into the film and from there, you know, you build a movie around those set pieces.”

I have no doubt that viewers will know the specific scene he is referring to when they see it (it’s quite shocking), but what may surprise viewers more than some of the more grotesque happenings in Hereditary is that the first half of the film is very much a drama. It’s not until the halfway point of the film that familiar horror tropes begin to emerge. Don’t get me wrong, Hereditary is a horror film through and through, but it takes a bit of time to get to the goods. Aster screened a few different films for the cast and crew to prepare them for the shoot, and the films he selected will probably give you an idea of the type of film you are in for.

“It was important to me that I catered to the family drama before I even concerned myself with the horror,” Aster said. “So on a lot of the films that we were watching, especially showing the crew, before production, were in the family drama space. So we watched a few films by Mike Leigh. We watched All or Nothing and I think Secrets and Lies. And I know that I had the crew watch 45 Years, which is a recent film by Andrew Haigh, which is incredible….kind of a bleak relationship drama but it’s really also just like a very nontraditional ghost story. And then we watched In the Bedroom, The Ice Storm.”

It’s no secret that expectations are sky-high for Hereditary, but will the film be able to connect with mainstream audiences like it has with critics? Or are their expectations too high? Over the past few years, critical darlings like It FollowsThe Babadook and The Witch have been released to rather tepid reactions from audiences. Will Hereditary fall prey to the same phenomenon? Wolff quickly jumped to the film’s defense when I brought up this subject.

“I think that audiences are much smarter than the studios give them credit for,” he said. “Every single moment in Hereditary is linked to a moment in the end for the payoff. I think it has the ability of captivating people the same way that Manchester By the Sea did. It has that audience because it’s so wrapped in human drama. And I think it’s way more terrifying than any of the horror movies that I’ve seen. I really have zero concern. I think people are going to be upset by it and disturbed by it. I think there was a phase when people were excited for these jump scares, like when Saw first came out. But I think that right now, this is the kind of movie that I think people will be really excited about it.”

Aster agreed and admitted that less patient viewers will likely find his film to be somewhat frustrating:

“The film does demand patience. It does take its time. And I hope that it rewards patience, or at least I hope that it rewards the patience of the audience. But yeah, the film is very specific. It’s a very bleak film. It’s rooted in very, very, ugly emotions. And it’s designed to bother you. I think it’s inevitable that there are going to be people who hate the film and that’s great.”

Audiences will be able to make up their own minds about Hereditary when A24 releases it in theaters nationwide on June 8, 2018.

A journalist for Bloody Disgusting since 2015, Trace writes film reviews and editorials, as well as co-hosts Bloody Disgusting's Horror Queers podcast, which looks at horror films through a queer lens. He has since become dedicated to amplifying queer voices in the horror community, while also injecting his own personal flair into film discourse. Trace lives in Denver, CO with his husband and their two dogs. Find him on Twitter @TracedThurman

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Paul Tremblay on Fighting AI with Horror in New Novel ‘Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep’

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Paul Tremblay didn’t start his writing career believing he’d be battling machines over the sanctity of his job, but like so many writers of his generation, the battle found him. In the years since Large Language Models (LLMs) and neural networks started gaining traction as an advertised shortcut to creativity, Tremblay has been active in lawsuits to prevent the use of his works in training AI models, and he’s found that, with each new project, he has to consider the possibility that some LLM, somewhere, is going to latch on to what he’s creating. 

“Now I feel like I’m thinking about, ‘Man, how am I going to write things that would be really hard or impossible for an AI to replicate?’,” Tremblay told me, speaking by Zoom from his home in Massachusetts. “Maybe some of that is ego. I’m sure every writer thinks, ‘Oh, an AI could never write what I write.’ Yes, I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t part of the thought process.”

While that’s something Tremblay might consider with any new work at this point in his career, the Bram Stoker Award-winning author of A Head Full of Ghosts, The Cabin at the End of the World, and many other novels and short stories tackled it in a more direct way with his latest book. Inspired by Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, and the quirky humor of the Coen Brothers, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is Tremblay’s attempt at a sci-fi-horror mash-up that’s both darkly funny and existentially nightmarish. It’s also, in his own words, a screed against the movement by AI companies to supplant human artists. 

I didn’t want to make it too didactic, but no, I playfully described this book as an anti-AI screed,” he said. “This book, in particular, was driven by anger and frustration, for sure. Not every book is going to be driven that way.

Despite the emotions that fueled it, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep does not read like a screed. Instead, wielding offbeat humor and tech concepts that feel both lived-in and frighteningly tactile, the book lays out tandem narratives all building to the same conclusion, each of them exploring our relationship to machine learning in a different way. One of these narratives belongs to Julia, a former gaming streamer looking for a new challenge in life, who gets a call from a California tech company with an interesting offer.

Paul Tremblay in documentary series “First Word on Horror”

The company has, it seems, implanted some new technology in a brain-dead middle-aged man which will, in theory, allow them to pilot the man’s body through a rudimentary, still-developing system of controls. Julia, with her gaming background, would be the pilot, in her own way just as much a test subject as the human vegetable she’s controlling. 

Julia is a Gen Z streamer with an omnivorous pop culture appetite, inspired by Tremblay’s own adult children, who riffs on The Big Lebowski constantly and calls her strange new meat puppet “Bernie” in reference to Weekend at Bernie’s. Her wide frame of reference, and her interest in art and stories far beyond video games, is in part informed by Tremblay’s own experiences with Gen Z, and in part a response to AI companies who scrape art and culture as a means of consuming it for reference without really experiencing a story. 

“I know that one of the arguments that OpenAI and other tech companies are trying to make is like, ‘Hey, you writers, you artists, you take pop culture, you take your influences, and you create something. That’s just the same thing that the bots are doing.’ And it’s just not,” Tremblay said. “I wanted to have Julia have her outlook informed by all this pop culture, and I wanted to make that feel really human as a way to show how inhuman the AI is.”

The other side of the story belongs to “Bernie,” who’s addressed in his point-of-view chapters as “You.” In these chapters, the technology in Bernie’s body starts to flicker images through his seemingly dead brain, delivering half-remembered imagery and perspective in a nod to the “hallucinations” of an AI model groping for understanding it can never reach. These chapters in particular show off Tremblay’s flair for formalist shake-ups, and echo the kind of hyperstimulated writing that Dick and Ellison made so influential. 

“I think it was more just the general Philip K. Dick feeling of ‘The world is so strange,'” Tremblay said. “He’s a lot funnier, I think, than maybe a lot of people credit him. That’s definitely what I was thinking of when writing the book.

Bernie’s chapters embody the strangeness of Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep, presenting imagery that’s at times puzzling, at times eerily filmic, and always unnerving. They also mirror Julia’s own journey in fascinating ways as the odd couple – the Gen Z gamer and the middle-aged vegetable – traverse the United States, and the tech in Bernie’s body wakes up to the possibilities of using his flesh for its own purposes. It’s a compelling narrative technique, but it presented some new writing challenges for Tremblay. 

“I quickly realized I couldn’t write this book the same way I have in the past,” he said. “By that, I mean all my other novels I had written in the order in which it was presented, even things that are nonlinear, which is most of them. I knew I couldn’t do that in this book. It’s not a spoiler, but hopefully the readers figure out pretty early that the Bernie chapters are a little bit of a preview of the next chapter from Julia, what’s actually happening with Julia. It’s all refracted from him.”

Mary Roach’s Stiff

Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep began with a simple image, inspired by Tremblay’s reading of Mary Roach‘s book chronicling the history of our treatment of corpses, Stiff. As he read, Tremblay imagined a body sitting on an airplane, remote-controlled by someone else. At the time, it was a “silly what-if” concept, filed away in his head. Years later, when he became an author suing a tech company to keep AI from scraping his work for ideas, it started to feel frighteningly plausible, taking the “silly what-if” into the territory of a high-concept horror show about what happens when we try to exploit and commodify uniquely human aspects of consciousness. 

“It stuck with me,” Tremblay said of that what-if imagery. “And then a few years later, when I was a part of the case suing OpenAI on behalf of writers, that what-if suddenly didn’t seem as silly. The more I learned about how that corporation operates and without really any sort of ethical thought to anything, I was like, ‘Oh, I’m going to play with that. That’s actually happening.”

So, what if someone actually in favor of generative AI picks up Tremblay’s self-described “anti-AI screed?” He hopes that, at the very least, he’s made the ride enjoyable in a distinctly human way that might begin to reshape the conversation. 

“I think that was another reason why I wanted to have the humor,” Tremblay said. “If people are reading this book who aren’t on the side of like, ‘Hey, LLMs taking authors’ books is bad,’ maybe if they read something that’s cut with some humor, that maybe they’ll be more easily swayed.”

Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is now in bookstores everywhere. 

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