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‘Terminator: Dark Fate’: Tim Miller Teases New Machines and a Very Different Arnold Schwarzenegger

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There’s a lot to unpack when you try and revisit the mythology in the first two Terminator films. What timeline are the films on and how does time travel affect the future? From this writer’s understanding, the events of the first two films are on a singular timeline with the events in both changing the future. There aren’t necessarily multiple timelines and therefore the finale of Judgment Day concludes the story. Or so we thought.

The biggest question mark with Terminator: Dark Fate, this time directed by Deadpool‘s Tim Miller, is as to how the events in James Cameron’s sequel set the stage for the third film (remembering that it retcons all other sequels). If I’m reading this quote correctly, may things are different – including the fact that Skynet is no longer the catalyst.

“There’s this new future because of what Sarah did at the end of Terminator 2, and it’s worse than ever,” Miller tells EW.

He goes on to reveal how the new “machines” are connected and teases their origins: “And that gives us the opportunity for these new characters. Gabriel [Luna] comes from something that is not Skynet, but it’s like Skynet. And Mackenzie Davis comes from something that Kyle Reese and the Resistance did.

“I tried to keep Gabriel a bit grounded while still interesting,” he added, “I feel his new weapons and abilities are right for our times but not so ridiculous that it just turns into a visual effects superfest. And the same with Mackenzie’s character — I really liked her origin story. We did an early writer’s room and Joe Abercrombie came up with her as this super soldier from the future, but it comes at a cost to be one of these people. They’re the first people to die, they’re the shock troops who protect the rest of humanity, and her readiness to sacrifice is a really interesting way to come at a character.”

This is all really interesting stuff because it eludes to the fact that the things that birthed the apocalypse aren’t what we thought they were – if all evidence of the machines were destroyed at the end of Judgment Day, what’s the catalyst in Dark Fate? Kyle Reese is somehow still involved, but what about John Connor? Are we going to find out he never joined the resistance in this new timeline?

Miller also teased more on the evolution of Arnold Schwarzenegger‘s T-800, which Squires touched upon yesterday.

“I don’t think people will be ready for what Arnold has become either, because it’s very different.”

Paramount is releasing the new movie on November 1st, 2019.

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‘Mickey vs. Winnie’ – The Public Domain Horror Trend May Have Just Jumped the Shark

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In case you haven’t noticed, the public domain status of beloved icons like Winnie the Pooh, Cinderella and Mickey Mouse has been wreaking havoc on the horror genre in the past couple years, with filmmakers itching to get their hands on the characters and put them into twisted situations. In the wake of two Winnie the Pooh slashers, well, Pooh is about to battle Mickey.

It’s not from the same team behind the Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey films, to be clear, but Deadline reports that Glenn Douglas Packard (Pitchfork) will direct the horror movie Mickey vs. Winnie for Untouchables Entertainment and the website iHorror.

Deadline details, “The film follows two convicts in the 1920s who escape into a cursed forest only to be dragged and consumed into the depths of the dark forest’s muddy heart.

“A century later, a group of thrill-seeking friends unknowingly venture into the same woods. Their Airbnb getaway takes a horrifying turn when the convicts mutate into twisted versions of childhood icons Mickey Mouse & Winnie-The-Pooh, and emerge to terrorize them. A night of violence and gore erupts, as the group of friends battle against their now monstrous beloved childhood characters and fight to break free from the forest’s grip.

“In a horrific spectacle, Mickey and Winnie clash, painting the woods in a gruesome tableau of blood—a chilling testament to the curse’s insidious power.”

Glenn Douglas Packard wrote the screenplay that he’ll be directing.

“Horror fans call for the thrill of witnessing icons like the new Aliens and Avengers sharing the screen. While licensing nightmares make such crossovers rare, Mickey vs. Winnie serves as our tribute to that thrilling fantasy,” Packard said in a statement this week.

Producer Anthony Pernicka from iHorror previews, “We’re thrilled to unveil this unique take to horror fans. The Mickey Mouse featured in our film is unlike any iteration audiences have encountered before. Our portrayal doesn’t involve characters donning basic masks. Instead, we present deeply transformed, live-action horror renditions of these iconic figures, weaving together elements of innocence and malevolence. After experiencing the intense scenes we’ve crafted, you’ll never look at Mickey the same way again.”

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